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Post by Insanegoku on Oct 5, 2004 8:42:52 GMT -5
I think vegito should have it because he is cool and him having it will make the game better
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Post by nickel501 on Oct 5, 2004 8:55:05 GMT -5
what the hell man vegito shouldnt get it just cause it would be cool be reasonable here dont be an idiot, what kind of a reason is cause it would be cool hell it would be cool if they all could but thats not a good reason, it seems to me like this is more spam then an idea since you dont even try to present a good reason why he should get it, for some reason I have been saying allot of these kind of forums lately where they say something thats 2 sentences and doesnt even present a good reason
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Post by storm on Oct 5, 2004 11:31:52 GMT -5
I think he should have transmission because vegito is fuse from goku and vegeta and so he should know there skins like kamehameha transmission
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 5, 2004 12:52:49 GMT -5
Transmission Kamehameha was a combination of two skills that went well together.
I think both Vegeto and Gogeta should have instant transmission.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 5, 2004 13:44:53 GMT -5
.. Next time you want to start a poll, on ANY idea, list WHY you think it should be implemented, with reasons OTHER then "I think its cool".
I think it would be cool, if shenron was playable, and we made this into a god map... gag.. cmon now
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 5, 2004 13:45:54 GMT -5
... did either vegito or gogeta GET transmission in the series/manga/comics and whatnot?
if they get it, then cell (in all forms should) as well as buu(absorbs goku), and bebi (in goku body)....
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 5, 2004 14:49:55 GMT -5
... did either vegito or gogeta GET transmission in the series/manga/comics and whatnot? if they get it, then cell (in all forms should) as well as buu(absorbs goku), and bebi (in goku body).... I can understand the latter two, but there is no reason Cell should start with instant transmission. He didn't even know what it was until around the Cell games. As to how he learned it just by blowing up I will personally never understand. Cell initially only knows what he was programmed to know, and instant transmission was never programmed into his memories. Anywho, because Vegeto and Gogeta have full access to Goku's memories and such, it stands to reason that they would know how to use instant transmission. If fused people didn't get memories of their components then Gotenks wouldn't know who Piccolo and Gohan were.
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Post by storm on Oct 5, 2004 15:31:01 GMT -5
yeah thats right but vegito has the full memories from vegeta and goku, when the both know how ss4 work or have the right lvl vegito could transform into ss4 too is that right?
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 5, 2004 15:44:32 GMT -5
As to cell, he had goku's dna? (poor comparison to fusion.. ie if part of a person imparts full knowledge.. then cell can port)
yeah cell blowing up = transmission, random.. i agree
Memories, maybe, but abilities? Did vegito use any of goku's attacks or moves? (vegeta for that matter?)
did they ever demonstrate such skills? (not to say they DONT have them, but there have been countless arguments, that if its NOT in series, it shouldnt be in game, regardless of logic)
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 5, 2004 15:47:14 GMT -5
yeah thats right but vegito has the full memories from vegeta and goku, when the both know how ss4 work or have the right lvl vegito could transform into ss4 too is that right? slighty hard to understand, although i think what he is saying is... If goku and/or vegeta had access to ss4, then it would stand to reason that vegito (and/or gogeta) would be able to use ss4 as well... (in series i dont think vegito was around whilst ss4 was...) (more logic for you) the reverse though cant be assumed (trans/skills of fusion can be used by seperate parts...) does anyone know when/how goku learned insta trans? and why no one else learned it or was shown how to do it? (hmm i forget which enemy, cell? buu? but someone was able to use instant transmission, and as a result goku and unknown villian had blink punch wars... help me out you gurus plz)
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Post by KidGoku on Oct 5, 2004 16:00:15 GMT -5
he learned on his way back frum killing frieza. his pod crashed into a planet. people rescued him and tught him techniques. the most important one to the saga being the instant trans
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 5, 2004 17:41:39 GMT -5
Since in Tribute Ultra both Goku and Vegeta keep their tails, their fusion would also have a saiyan tail, thus Vegeto and Gogeta would be able to achieve SS4 the same way Goku and Vegeta did. Of course going by that logic Gogeta and Vegeto should also have that oozaru form, which I am not totally against.
The Instant Transmission battle Nukem is referring to was actually between Goku and Metal Koola in movie 6.
Metal Koola: Very impressive Goku: You like that huh? It's called instant transmission. Metal Koola: I know, it's one of my favorite techniques. Goku: You're favorite? *Metal Koola ITs to Goku and punches him or something*
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 5, 2004 19:46:52 GMT -5
Yeah random aliens have insta trans... goofy aliens too..
Did you catch my idea in regards to mass dmg/dying in monkey form = loss of tail? (good idea i think..)
Did gogeta or vegito have their tails? (vegito shouldnt have since niether goku or vegeta had theirs? whereas gogeta should?)
Yeah, but now you want to give units tranformations they should/could logically have, but wasnt shown in the series/mange/etc. gohan = ss4 argument anyone? (not to say i disagree, but i have to do the devils advocate routine...)
Sounds like cooler should either start with insta trans, or at least get it when he gets goku's data... (if anyone should gain the attacks [kame/masenko/final...] of the zfighters (instead of buu) it seems it should be cooler...
Thank you wise DB Guru(s) for your wisdom and knowledge.
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 5, 2004 20:38:03 GMT -5
About Vegeto not having a tail: Neither does Goku and Vegeta after the saiyan saga, yet they can become Oozaru and Golden Oozaru throughout the game. Since they both have their tails, so should Vegeto and Gogeta.
As for Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan losing their tails, I wouldn't mind terribly.
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 5, 2004 20:40:04 GMT -5
About Koola learning attacks from the data he gets, that sounds good. Each data could be like an item with which he can use spells.
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