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Post by CNukemR on Oct 24, 2004 17:58:12 GMT -5
im purty sure pureness doesnt effect ability to trans, except as to whether u have a tail or not (or the ability to manipulate ki as any pure saiyan can automatically)
obviously pan and trunks and goten can manip ki, but none seem to have tails..
some people like goozaru (i for one LOVE it.. and use it alot.. fort armor is nice, jus wish moonlight have lvls, so i could get longer goozaru timers..)
the only point of wish (currently) would be to put the tails back on (if we put triggers to remove tails..) and of course without a tail, you can goozaru OR ss4, sooo this wish would have motivation... (unless u have crazy blutz guns of doom..)
i assume though we could allow any saiyan to wish for his tail, but then we might argue they can get goozaru/ss4.. sooo lets avoid that for now..
cell had a tail, if we gave it a use/purpose (other then eating civilains..) cell could easily have a similar wish...
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Post by Kenshin on Oct 26, 2004 0:32:33 GMT -5
you know. now that you mention that!
i was wondering, maybe instead of a damn power wish, there would also be "transformation wishes"!!!!!
which would for instance let me wish for ss5 or ss6, or something! (in order obviously, as in, i can't wish for ss6 if i don't have ss5)
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i don't know, but i think that'd be a good idea, to give the dragon's wishes a more "open minded" idea.
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Post by SBKKupan on Oct 26, 2004 8:33:27 GMT -5
(or the ability to manipulate ki as any pure saiyan can automatically)
I don't believe so, when Vegeta first faces Goku on Earth, they are surprised he can raise his power level, that is something Vegeta doesn't learn untill they are on Namek, it is something you must learn, not something they can automatically do. The only thing except the tail i can think of that is different about true Sayians is that their hair grows differently:D
Also, whether you are a true Sayian or not doesn't matter, Gotenks may be a fusion, but he is no true sayian, and he is SS3. That point can be argued, but I believe it is correct.
[Edit]Though i think the wish idea is good, more open minded sounds cool, even though SS5 is unothodox and just a different power increast, it sounds cool[/Edit]
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 26, 2004 14:45:05 GMT -5
hmm i assumed manip ki was a natural trait, although one that COULD be learned.. (krillin and some humans can, but most cant..)
so its a freak of nature for humans or learned..
either way I assumed that bra (vegeta's daughter?) simply wasnt born with the skill and therefore is a wuss.. (nor could she learn it)
mb not..
either way im not saying non pure saiyans (or humans) cant manip ki, only that it SEEMED that pure saiyans could pretty much do it from birth.. (broly? cough cough)
whereas krillin and human crew are freaks of nature/well trained
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Post by SBKKupan on Oct 26, 2004 14:52:33 GMT -5
If you ask me, Brolly is the freak of nature, it is after all him who is the legendary super saiyan, so it must come natural to him... Like it says in the first movie, it was his hidden powers that saved them, not Brolly controlling them... Maybe that is something he learned along the way as well, but I can't say for sure. All I know is that Vegeta definitely learnt it, and did so on Namek, which seemed to surprise Dodoria;) The others are well trained indeed, I think it is a trade you must learn, whoever you are. Just seems like all the people that are powerful can do it automatically... Frieza, Cooler, Garlick Jr and everyone else.... how come all the bad guys can
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 27, 2004 15:25:22 GMT -5
what does this have 2 do with vegito getting insta trans? .
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Post by CommunistSmurf on Oct 27, 2004 16:36:57 GMT -5
gotenks isnt a pure saiyan ur right but didnt someone in this thread of maybe another say that fusion and otherword trainging bend the rules so because of the fusion gotenks could get ss3, but we dont really know if he can get ss3 without fusion
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Post by SBKKupan on Oct 27, 2004 18:00:37 GMT -5
thats all speculation, and if u talk real life or business, you cant afford to speculate, you must know. So no-one can say, I think its possible for all, but Goku needs to be speciel, he is after all the main character... And it has nothing to do with IT and Vegito, but no-one seems to be posting their opinion anyway!
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Post by SSJ3Goku on Dec 20, 2004 13:13:18 GMT -5
yea he should cause he is a fusion of vegeta and goku and gokus got instant trans
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