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Post by graciaman on Oct 6, 2004 9:17:10 GMT -5
that sounds like a good idea, make the data skill-giving items, or not items at all, just auto-upgrades possibly, for when geti gets all data he cannot gain any more senzu beans or dballs. Either way, him obtaining skills is a great idea, and he should start with IT.
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 6, 2004 11:01:28 GMT -5
i like the idea of if they get weak enuff then they lose there tails. either that or evry1 gets a skill when a saiyans life gets below 300 or less use a skill called cut tail. then the saiyans lose oozaru for. either that or just give it 2 certain villians like buu and cell. and i think show or no show i go with logic and if goku knows inta trans then gogeta/vegito should 2.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 6, 2004 11:08:19 GMT -5
I reckon Vegito shud have USS transformation cause i think he went it, not sure auctually, but his muscle pump up like a uss, and his name was Super Vegito, which by memory Vegita, when he transformed into a uss, he called himself Super Vegita, coiencidence? mayb... but i reckon Vegito needs at least one more form than SS, and if you want to stay as true to teh show as possible, this way can work, and Vegito shud have instant Transmission since he used it when Buu Ghost's Kamahamehas was chasing him, he used to before they hit.
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 6, 2004 11:21:45 GMT -5
it wasn't uss is was just ss he called him self super vegito cause he went super saiyan. and i think he should get only ss3.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 6, 2004 11:36:36 GMT -5
yes, that seems more logical than giving him a USS transformation even though we never saw him use a ssj3 form, and we got some evidence he might of went USS, not saying he did, but theres a heck a lot more evidence showing he did that ssj3 if ur claiming he went it
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 6, 2004 11:40:22 GMT -5
Vegeto would have absolutly no reason to go USS. If he really needed an extra boost in power he would have just gone SS2.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 6, 2004 13:33:16 GMT -5
About Vegeto not having a tail: Neither does Goku and Vegeta after the saiyan saga, yet they can become Oozaru and Golden Oozaru throughout the game. Since they both have their tails, so should Vegeto and Gogeta. As for Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan losing their tails, I wouldn't mind terribly. i was referring to the series.. did Vegito have his tail in the series (which he shouldnt have, since niether goku or vegeta did at that time?) gogeta on the other hand, might/must have (he went ss4) and at least goku had his tail... (thinking of this as to the argument about fusions... having similar abilites and the like) if we added part on goku/vegeta losing tails, then the same would be true of vegito and gogeta.... but yeah i dont mind giving vegito/gogeta monkey form(s) but when will it stop? (gohan getting ss4? goozaru?) (goten as ss3?)
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 6, 2004 14:35:06 GMT -5
SS4 Gohan and SS3 Goten are vastly different things from giving Vegeto and Gogeta Oozaru form. Vegeto and Gogeta being able to go Oozaru is the natural result of both Goku and Vegeta having tails. Had they both had tails when they fused all those times, their fused forms would have tails, and since Vegeta's mind is in there they would know how to make fake full moons.
Then again...had Gohan never lost his tail then Golden Oozaru and SS4 would be available to him as well. However he does infact lose his tail by the time he mystic trains in the game, being as he can no longer Oozaru.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 6, 2004 16:05:04 GMT -5
SS4 Gohan and SS3 Goten are vastly different things from giving Vegeto and Gogeta Oozaru form. Vegeto and Gogeta being able to go Oozaru is the natural result of both Goku and Vegeta having tails. Had they both had tails when they fused all those times, their fused forms would have tails, and since Vegeta's mind is in there they would know how to make fake full moons. Then again...had Gohan never lost his tail then Golden Oozaru and SS4 would be available to him as well. However he does infact lose his tail by the time he mystic trains in the game, being as he can no longer Oozaru. how did he lose his tail.. (i assume moonlight option was removed, since mystic/saiyaman clash with it, not as a result of any logical triggers) goten getting ss3 is just as logical as gogeta/vegito getting goozaru, goten is a saiyan, and although his ss3 would have to come at lvl 60 or so, he COULD still get it... likewise, since gohan DOESNT lose his tail, he COULD get ss4... thats where the trouble is... (if we let one in, when does it stop) also, goozaru and oozaru (goozaru especially) are VERY Strong morphs (fort armor...) ss4 and other trans are good, but i save goozaru for the big ass bad bammas...(bojack saga... and stuff)
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Post by KidGoku on Oct 6, 2004 16:15:37 GMT -5
so is the bojack saga in consideration?
anyway, everyone should have every transform (saiyans get all things, they also should only get to go oozaru/goozaru when they have a tail using a skill ssuch as grow tail with a huge...respawn time... and when they go below a certain health amount thewy lose the tail)
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 6, 2004 16:55:22 GMT -5
bojack saga is in the map.. certain characters automatically have tails and can go monkey form with long cooldown..
im trying to get it added where you can lose your tail (and monkey forms) (not permament, but you have to do sumthing to get your tail back... pulled out/wish or sumthing)
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 6, 2004 17:11:21 GMT -5
what i stated above i wasn't saying he went ss3 i'm saying he SHOULD get ss3. and for goten getting ss3 he should get it at lvl like 4 or 45 not 6. in show he got ss waaaaay before goku ever did. he was advanced so should get it at lvl 35 or 40. and what about kid trunks he should get it at like lvl 40 if goten gets it at 35.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 6, 2004 17:59:36 GMT -5
that makes no sense..
goku currently gerts ss4 at lvl 35 (which is odd, goku should get ss4 b4 vegeta..)
anyways, the kids started with ss, (pretty soon in series, mb they should start with ss in game.. hmm)
but i would assume there is a degree of necessary age and maturity, which the kids have to get/earn...
even if (unlikely as hell) the kids were allowed to have ss3, it would HAVE to be later game, and therefore.. useless (since they will be gotenks)
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 6, 2004 19:47:32 GMT -5
how did he lose his tail.. (i assume moonlight option was removed, since mystic/saiyaman clash with it, not as a result of any logical triggers) goten getting ss3 is just as logical as gogeta/vegito getting goozaru, goten is a saiyan, and although his ss3 would have to come at lvl 60 or so, he COULD still get it... likewise, since gohan DOESNT lose his tail, he COULD get ss4... thats where the trouble is... (if we let one in, when does it stop) also, goozaru and oozaru (goozaru especially) are VERY Strong morphs (fort armor...) ss4 and other trans are good, but i save goozaru for the big ass bad bammas...(bojack saga... and stuff) Gohan lost his tail in the anime after it was cut off by Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga. Tails can grow back, but not always. Goten getting SS3 is no where near as logical as Gogeta or Vegeto having their tails. In the map Goku and Vegeta have tails all the time, nothing is different. Because they have tails, their fusions would have tails, and all that that implies. Goten can't get SS3 because he doesn't have the self-discipline or the desire to push himself to that point. Hell not even Vegeta was able to achieve SS3, which only furthers my belief that only otherworldly methods can get to that point (training while dead, fusion) Also in the map Gohan does lose his tail, so SS4 is not an option.
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Post by Bleen on Oct 6, 2004 20:58:31 GMT -5
Vegeta did achieve SS3 while Bebi powered him up from the inside while controlling him. He had no eyebrows and long hair going to front inside of back. But he never did achieve or use SS3 on his own.
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