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Post by KidGoku on Oct 6, 2004 22:41:06 GMT -5
but he got ss4 at the end didn't he though...makes a lot of sense there
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 7, 2004 5:44:51 GMT -5
i already stated this ina nother thread, but il stat here that vegeta did not go ssj3 while bebi was inside of him, bebi just moulded his looks to match his more, firstly his eyes wernt the right colour (teal eyes wit black pupils) and where was the radic lightning around him eh? and his hair growing forwards instead of backwards?? if that was remotely true then technically he cudnt c cause his hair wud b so long. All bebi did to Vegeta was empowered him stronger than he was b4 and changed his looks, and remember he cheated getting a ssj4 form through bulma device, but even that i dont believe u need to be ssj3 to get ssj4 since reacher that form is way different that the rest, u have to become a golden ozzuro and harness its power kinda and its transform into a ssj4 form. Anyways dont go on much on wat GT did, it wasnt written by the same ppl who did DB and DBZ and got a lot of things stupid, 1 example they said that Android 17 was dead and we clearly saw him alive and well at the end of DBZ and was giving power to goku Spirit Bomb, and in GT he dead in hell
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 7, 2004 9:18:33 GMT -5
GT was NOT written by the same guy who wrote DB and DBZ. GT was made by the company that turned the Dragonball mangas into the Dragonball anime as a means to milk more money out of the thing than they already did previously.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 7, 2004 12:03:43 GMT -5
Yea thats the point i was makin, or at least part of it
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 7, 2004 12:34:46 GMT -5
i already stated this ina nother thread, but il stat here that vegeta did not go ssj3 while bebi was inside of him, bebi just moulded his looks to match his more, firstly his eyes wernt the right colour (teal eyes wit black pupils) and where was the radic lightning around him eh? and his hair growing forwards instead of backwards?? if that was remotely true then technically he cudnt c cause his hair wud b so long. All bebi did to Vegeta was empowered him stronger than he was b4 and changed his looks, and remember he cheated getting a ssj4 form through bulma device, but even that i dont believe u need to be ssj3 to get ssj4 since reacher that form is way different that the rest, u have to become a golden ozzuro and harness its power kinda and its transform into a ssj4 form. Anyways dont go on much on wat GT did, it wasnt written by the same ppl who did DB and DBZ and got a lot of things stupid, 1 example they said that Android 17 was dead and we clearly saw him alive and well at the end of DBZ and was giving power to goku Spirit Bomb, and in GT he dead in hell Sorta like how the old kai unlocked Gohans hidden powers to use without turning into a super saiyan, is what bebi did. He unlocked Vegeta's dormant powers, plus a boost by combining with him.
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Post by KingCrazyGenius on Oct 7, 2004 12:37:30 GMT -5
I looked at some pictures of Bebi Vegeta, and none of them seem to have eyebrows.
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 7, 2004 16:43:26 GMT -5
it shouldn't matter what manga or show has. this is sumtin totally different all saiyans r alike ig 1 can go ss3 then another should b able 2 just very hard. i think goku should get ss4 at lvl 25 and vegeta get it at lvl 35. vegeta should get ss3 at lvl 25.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 7, 2004 21:55:17 GMT -5
SSJ3 are not dorment powers, it just a transformation they can achive, i always view a ssj transformation as a safe Kao Ken since it all seems to do is multiply its power, and if u need a example when Gohan breaks the Z sword he says he much stronger and Supreme Kai says "then he must be way stronger as Super Saiyan" or sumthing along those lines. Anyway Old Kai unlock powers he already had and shit, all bebi did was empower vegeta more wit his own power, and if he did even unlock ssj3 (im not agreeing wit u here) then u shud b arguing than vegeta shud get ssj only when Bebi controlling him since ur arguing that when bebi in him is when he can only use it
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 7, 2004 21:59:40 GMT -5
going by saiyan logic any saiyan SHOULD b able 2 attain ss3 it's just a matter of rage, power, and training. goku before frieza when fighting lord slug got sumtin called giji super saiyan when u have the power but not the rage of super saiyan.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 7, 2004 22:19:35 GMT -5
i've always seen ssj3 as a matter of skill to reach, not rage or anything since i doubt goku got angry in other world unless um1 said they ran out of food or sumthing
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 7, 2004 23:13:15 GMT -5
i was just saying that cause for ss 2 start goku had 2 get angry (that happened when frieza killed goku) but basically i ent all sayains should have the ability 2 go ss3 logic wise.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 7, 2004 23:24:50 GMT -5
they can, but sum never reach ssj3, or most like most of them, only Goku did, also Gotenks, but only through fusion, gohan, goten, trunks and vegeta never had the ability to go ssj3. From wat i've seen this is the hardest level to reach, it requires less emotion and more training to reach than the past transformations. So yea, i dont believe that vegeta and co shudnt get ssj3, just keep it the characters in the game can only reach forms which they cud go in the game, i dont want this turning into some fan base game where everyone can go ssj5 and shit (only a example but i think u know wat i mean)
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 8, 2004 2:00:46 GMT -5
i think vegeta should b able 2 get ss3 just needs 2 train hard like get it at lvl 25 and ss4 at 35. if vegeta trained hard enuff he probly coulda gotten ss3.
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 8, 2004 11:32:46 GMT -5
he had 10 years from dbz to gt after he found out that there was a ssj3 level, so yeh, i kinda doubt that he wud of reach ssj3, but when it comes to basic the writers didnt want him to have it, it wasnt in teh shows, so he shud absolutly not get it in dbz tribute, he is balance and shit anyway, just leave it alone, i dont want to see this game go down the drain since ppl start puttin in that kinda shit that enver happen
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Post by jakeic on Oct 8, 2004 12:22:27 GMT -5
relax people, the entire thing is all made up anyways.
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