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Post by CNukemR on Oct 30, 2004 10:43:23 GMT -5
Since it seems everyone has different opinions of everyone's relative power level, I decided to post a thread where this can be debated...
Ill start by listing groups of people, in what I think is their relative order...(generally at the height of each individual's power)
Gogeta (even though its mroe fun if perm fuse is stronger, it makes more sense that the stronger fusion is temporary, so they have to make good use of it) (plus he has SS4)
Vegito
Goku (SS4)
Vegeta (SS4)
Gotenks (ss3 was max < ss4?)
Gohan (ss2 w/ mystic..)
Mtrunks (uss or ss2 max, not sure which..)
Piccolo (kamicollo was <uss? or not? mb above trunks)
KTrunks(ss) [adult..]
Goten(ss) [adult..]
18 (mb below pan)
Pan(ss)
Tien
Krillin
Yamcha
Chiaotsu
also, adult gotenks, might be a bit stronger.. but never seen...
now to evil..
(top 3 im not sure on, never really saw movies for them.. or series)
Dragons (evil)
17
Hild
Nemba
Buu
Cell (only stronger then broly, since he can regen [from nearly nothing, but broly has more raw power/potential for more]
Broly
Bebi (bebi was strong, but only a match for goku and crew, WHILE in a body!)
Metal Cooler (geti star)
Cooler
Metal Frieza
Frieza
King Cold
Turles
Nappa
Raditz
(not sure where 16-18 and 13-15 fit in at all.. sorry)
Thats all I can think of for now.. feel free to argue/refine said list (with reasons plz)
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Post by PWNing Guy on Oct 30, 2004 10:54:08 GMT -5
Actually Broly should be above Buu and Cell, he had way more power and if he went straight in for the kill he would OWN them
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 30, 2004 11:01:28 GMT -5
According to the fan sites I visited;
So according to that it would be;
King Cold
Cyborg Frieza
Frieza
since Tori listed official power levels for dragonball z up to that point in the mangas.
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 30, 2004 11:05:16 GMT -5
And actually since you said "generally at the height of each individual's power" if you count GT, when Goku goes to hell it seems Frieza had been training with Cell and became stronger along with Cell so I would say his rank should be put between Broly and Cell.
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Post by BigK on Oct 30, 2004 11:44:11 GMT -5
I cannot agree with Gogeta over Vegito. the ony reason Gogeta was stronger is because thye ss4 fusion danced to obtain him. If they ss4 potarra fused against shenron, they would blink and shenron would be blown to bits. The fact of the matter is, vegito has much more potential. Potarra is better fusion anyway.
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Post by You on Oct 30, 2004 11:52:22 GMT -5
because ss-ss4 are not permanent transformations, if they were to fuse as ss4 they would die as soon as they lost there power to be ss4, so they cannot potara fuse as any ss transformations
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 30, 2004 12:39:59 GMT -5
Actually Broly should be above Buu and Cell, he had way more power and if he went straight in for the kill he would OWN them are u joking buu was about as strong as ss4 in kid buu state. broly was as strong as ss2-ss3. and cell was almsot as strong as ss2. |
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Post by Danton on Oct 30, 2004 13:42:21 GMT -5
I also think that at equal transformations Vegito would be stronger then Gogeta.
And I don't understand why people think mystic was weaker then ss3 when they pretty much spelt out that mystic was WAAAAAAY stronger during the Buu fight. Buu himself said he was only toying with the ss3 kids until Gohan popped up since he could feel his power from so far away.
Gohan then proceded to make Buu his prison-<bleep> while ss3 Gotenks was about even with super buu in terms of power.
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 30, 2004 14:30:04 GMT -5
Thats what I've been saying for a while. When Gotenks first goes SS3 and attacks Super Buu, super buu kinda just giggles and complements Gotenks that he's pretty stronger. Gotenks was more of a strong annoyance to Super Buu. Since it looked like Buu was playing around more than fighting. When Mystic Gohan faughter Super Buu, that was more of a battle than just play time. Also Gotenks actually got beat up some by Super Buu. Gohan didn't even get hit once.
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Post by Curufinwe on Oct 30, 2004 23:50:02 GMT -5
not really
-1 ss3 it suppose too equal lss
-2 Broly got ulimity power if puch or hit make im stronger and he can learn tech very fast
-3 Broly never train it self (or trully of course) and he was stronger them adult ss2 gohan
soo broly in my head is the strongest (of he train or anything like that ) in story line for me he equal buu
and oozo bebi is the strongest after super 17
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 31, 2004 6:56:42 GMT -5
According to the fan sites I visited; So according to that it would be; King Cold Cyborg Frieza Frieza since Tori listed official power levels for dragonball z up to that point in the mangas. yeah i was kinda guessing on them... i havent actually seen king cold, nor do I remember him doing anything other then dying, therefore I jus assumed he was weak., as to broly being stronger then buu.... i havent/dont check sits for power levels, but i think buu might have had more raw power then broly (although cell probably didnt) but having regeneration especially as much as buu did, would probably push him over the edge |
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 31, 2004 8:59:22 GMT -5
very interestin intakes, well potara earings are more powerful than fusion dance, it was said on the show, and u cant compare vegito from buu fight and gogeta from omega fight, kinda 20 years apart, if they were from the same time, say vegito cud go ss4, vegito wud b stronger than gogeta. Im gunna leave the cell stronger than brolly and vice versa argument, but i am gunna say that brolly not more powerful than buu.
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 31, 2004 10:19:49 GMT -5
-3 Broly never train it self (or trully of course) and he was stronger them adult ss2 gohan Thats because he survived near death from fighting Goku before he revived on earth so he got stronger than way. Also Adult Gohan never faught Broly at SS2. No SS2 power up, no sharply defined hair, no lighting around his golden aura... |
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Post by nickel501 on Oct 31, 2004 11:02:47 GMT -5
Well then he faught mystic gohan didnt he... cause gohans stays mystic
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Oct 31, 2004 13:20:09 GMT -5
The point with Mystic was being able to use your full power without going SS or any transformations so he wasn't Mystic.
On a side note, I kind of think he lost his Mystic power when Buu blew up the Earth and died. That would explain why he's such a pansy there on after.
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