Post by Peace I Say on Dec 19, 2004 14:32:25 GMT -5
K with all the upchuking about the allegations of Hex stealing models I'd thought I'd devise a plan of action.
A Summit of The Party's To Resolve The Matter Before It Gets Out of Hand. Or for short-ASOTPTRTMBIGOFH.
Party 1-Hex and his friends who work on the map.
Party 2-All the esf people who made the models that are "considered" stolen.
Party 3-Gotenkz as a mediator.
Note: THis would take place after v9 and supreme's release so that no one is delayed progress on the map.
They would meet in some chat channel on aim, or msn, or something. Somewhere private.
They would, with no flaming whatsever, discuss the problem.
I for one, wouldn't want this hanging over my head if i was Hex and wrongly accused, or if i was ESF and letting him get away with it.
So they would meet to resolve it. THey would discuss several subjects. NOt in order but hey...
Warmup-Introductions-Example-"Im GOkuSS3Jin and i made the esf ss3 model." Or "Im Hex, the creator of SDBZ."
1) Did Hex ever aproach the ESF guys, or anyone representing hex?
2) If yes, what was it about?
3) If no, what would ESF have liked that meeting to have been about?
4) Allegations-This would be non flaming allegations. Example: Hexenlord, your goku model is suprisignly similer to my model.
5) Hexenlord's Other Model Discussion-This is to prove Hexen is an actual modeler. Example- "Here's a screenshot of my frieza/brolly/cooler models. See, i can make my own."
6) The evidence-This is why it would have to be private. The 2 party's would then, at the discretion of the mediator, introduce physical evidence. Hopefully they would each send each other the models they made, and make comparisons. The mediator would also recieve copy's of both but would refrain from giving opinions based on them.
7) Each party would identify why the 2 models either are the same or obviously different. The mediator would listen to these opinions while looking at the 2 models. After each party gives their opinions the mediator would make a short conclusion of what he thinks.(Not in any way the final outcome)
8) Continuation-This process would be used for the whole time.
Basically the goku maker from esf would give hex his model, and hex give him his model. They would compare their models to each other's using the wireframe, poly count, etc.
When finished they would move on to the next allegation.
9) Ending Statments: Each party would say why they think they are correct and what they would like to happen as a result. Example "Well as we saw, Hex obviously used the shenron model, but none of the others. Therefore, we want him to admit he took it and give credit to whoever." Or "Well, I, Hex, obviously can model myself, and we saw that all of my models were my own. THerefore, i want you to admit you were wrong, but i will credit you with the concept idea if that makes you happy".
10) The mediators comment-This is where it helps if the mediator has no knowledge of the arugment beforehand. He would give his opinion on the whole thing from his viewpoint, not the disicion though.
11) Action. Both parties would agree to a course of action to be taken. Ex: Hex admitting/giving credit. ESF forgiving wrongdoing. Thus the matter would be resolved.
12) ENding and forgivneess. The party's woudl say they are sincerely sorry for the trouble caused, no matter the outcome, but thank each other for coming to the right conclusion. They would leave and take the before arranged actions.
13) Aftermath-Everything will be worked out and happy ;D
If this was followed, there would be no angry mobs for either party, and hopefully everything would be cool
Any comments, suggestions, ideas? Personally i think its a great idea to establish peace...No flames in your responses please, i tried to make this post as unbiased as possible. And no gotenkz does not have to be the mediator i jsut couldnt think of anyone else who isn't one of the 2 party's.
A Summit of The Party's To Resolve The Matter Before It Gets Out of Hand. Or for short-ASOTPTRTMBIGOFH.
Party 1-Hex and his friends who work on the map.
Party 2-All the esf people who made the models that are "considered" stolen.
Party 3-Gotenkz as a mediator.
Note: THis would take place after v9 and supreme's release so that no one is delayed progress on the map.
They would meet in some chat channel on aim, or msn, or something. Somewhere private.
They would, with no flaming whatsever, discuss the problem.
I for one, wouldn't want this hanging over my head if i was Hex and wrongly accused, or if i was ESF and letting him get away with it.
So they would meet to resolve it. THey would discuss several subjects. NOt in order but hey...
Warmup-Introductions-Example-"Im GOkuSS3Jin and i made the esf ss3 model." Or "Im Hex, the creator of SDBZ."
1) Did Hex ever aproach the ESF guys, or anyone representing hex?
2) If yes, what was it about?
3) If no, what would ESF have liked that meeting to have been about?
4) Allegations-This would be non flaming allegations. Example: Hexenlord, your goku model is suprisignly similer to my model.
5) Hexenlord's Other Model Discussion-This is to prove Hexen is an actual modeler. Example- "Here's a screenshot of my frieza/brolly/cooler models. See, i can make my own."
6) The evidence-This is why it would have to be private. The 2 party's would then, at the discretion of the mediator, introduce physical evidence. Hopefully they would each send each other the models they made, and make comparisons. The mediator would also recieve copy's of both but would refrain from giving opinions based on them.
7) Each party would identify why the 2 models either are the same or obviously different. The mediator would listen to these opinions while looking at the 2 models. After each party gives their opinions the mediator would make a short conclusion of what he thinks.(Not in any way the final outcome)
8) Continuation-This process would be used for the whole time.
Basically the goku maker from esf would give hex his model, and hex give him his model. They would compare their models to each other's using the wireframe, poly count, etc.
When finished they would move on to the next allegation.
9) Ending Statments: Each party would say why they think they are correct and what they would like to happen as a result. Example "Well as we saw, Hex obviously used the shenron model, but none of the others. Therefore, we want him to admit he took it and give credit to whoever." Or "Well, I, Hex, obviously can model myself, and we saw that all of my models were my own. THerefore, i want you to admit you were wrong, but i will credit you with the concept idea if that makes you happy".
10) The mediators comment-This is where it helps if the mediator has no knowledge of the arugment beforehand. He would give his opinion on the whole thing from his viewpoint, not the disicion though.
11) Action. Both parties would agree to a course of action to be taken. Ex: Hex admitting/giving credit. ESF forgiving wrongdoing. Thus the matter would be resolved.
12) ENding and forgivneess. The party's woudl say they are sincerely sorry for the trouble caused, no matter the outcome, but thank each other for coming to the right conclusion. They would leave and take the before arranged actions.
13) Aftermath-Everything will be worked out and happy ;D
If this was followed, there would be no angry mobs for either party, and hopefully everything would be cool
Any comments, suggestions, ideas? Personally i think its a great idea to establish peace...No flames in your responses please, i tried to make this post as unbiased as possible. And no gotenkz does not have to be the mediator i jsut couldnt think of anyone else who isn't one of the 2 party's.
