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Post by SubZer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:40:26 GMT -5
u know wat ill do wat zarmat says my opinion but next time u call it"so call opinion" dont phrase ur wording as he did ok this ends hrere im gonna stop posting in this area its getting us nowhere
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 18, 2004 0:00:57 GMT -5
i said that on the first page  |
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Post by DeimnoVorokto on Dec 18, 2004 13:18:04 GMT -5
I do not belive he stole them.
As you see in ESF there is a SS Trunks in Surpreme Hexen don't have one.
If Hexen did steal a model I would say he would not stop there so then he would have all the char that ESF have wich he doesn't.
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 18, 2004 14:46:06 GMT -5
true, was wonderin that, though he mite had to cut back on models to save space in the map
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Post by DeimnoVorokto on Dec 18, 2004 15:03:00 GMT -5
If you start stealing/copys others work you can't stop its like when I use a cheat in a game.
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Post by Oops on Dec 18, 2004 15:36:08 GMT -5
I say the only way to know for sure is to get Hexen and The ESF modeler to come here and say exactly what's up...
My guess is that it the only thing Hex might be guilty of is "basing the idea".
I mean this map would've been out a long time ago if all he did was rip stuff.
By the way, who made that buu skin pack...cause i doubt it was gotenkz...and no matter what you say im just gonna say he "stole" them just "like" hex.
And btw, no you can't convert those models to warcraft 3, no matter what you say! You can hold your position you can, but no where on any forum at any time has someoen said this
"You can convert models and here's the link to a program that does it"
Everyone says this-
"No you can convert them, i talked to a ESF guy and he said you could but he didn't name a program or give me a link, let's take his word for it."
And what are we thinking here?
Opinions but no flames?!! This is like asking for your opinion on whether the 2000 election was rigged. You can't not get angry opinions.
Sigh, looking over my post i see i am angry.
Teh way i see it, Hex has been a little "promotive" of his map on these boards. But, Did anyone ever tell him to stop doing that? Do 2 mapmakers have to create a war with each other? And its plain low to accuse someone of STEALING! THat's like saying Gotenkz Forced whoever made this map in the first place to unprotect it or whatever.
The two forums need more unity. You both need to unite against crappy maps. Like rampage.
Btw, i don't see hex or gotenkz accusing each other of stealing. Just the fanboys...
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Dec 18, 2004 17:17:46 GMT -5
I thought it was someone else thats part of his forum or whatever who did the skins, and he's only doing the coding and putting it all together. Any ways if he didn't personally make any of the skins he can't be 100% sure if his staff copied or altered or put their model side by side a model they were making and using it as a reference since all he can go by is their word. And about the lines/ frames, whatever, not matching up, slight altering would be why. Just thought I'd add some wood to the fire, lol. In the end though, I don't really care since I've already established I don't like RPG's therefore I won't be playing supreme WoW wasn't my cup of earl grey when I played it. Well,.... maybe if there was an RPG based on Star Trek I'd foce myself to like it ;D I love Star Trek  Damn you Paramount!!!! Make a damn RPG  |
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 18, 2004 20:29:36 GMT -5
I thought it was someone else thats part of his forum or whatever who did the skins, and he's only doing the coding and putting it all together. Any ways if he didn't personally make any of the skins he can't be 100% sure if his staff copied or altered or put their model side by side a model they were making and using it as a reference since all he can go by is their word. And about the lines/ frames, whatever, not matching up, slight altering would be why. Just thought I'd add some wood to the fire, lol. In the end though, I don't really care since I've already established I don't like RPG's therefore I won't be playing supreme WoW wasn't my cup of earl grey when I played it. Well,.... maybe if there was an RPG based on Star Trek I'd foce myself to like it ;D I love Star Trek Damn you Paramount!!!! Make a damn RPG Wow.. this guy knows a lot more than anyone else who is posting here giving there two cents about me and my map.. which is the main reason he didn't flame me just there. He's right, I don't do all of the skins. We've discussed this and I cannot be 100% sure if anyone else did anything, but I don't really care because its not going to effect anything I do.. even the slightest. |
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Dec 18, 2004 20:58:26 GMT -5
Maybe its just me but in most of your replies it sounds like you're saying "thats not going to stop the progress of my map so in your face, hahahahaha!" ermm, maybe not in those words but more or less. lol. If thats the case you need to get down off that cloud you're on because for me atleast it won't effect me either way. You make it sound like we'll be disappointed if we don't mess you up in some way.
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Post by arr on Dec 18, 2004 21:42:14 GMT -5
Hmm then what was the point of this thread?
Discussing whether someone stole something sure sounds like impeding progress...
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 18, 2004 22:13:24 GMT -5
Maybe its just me but in most of your replies it sounds like you're saying "thats not going to stop the progress of my map so in your face, hahahahaha!" ermm, maybe not in those words but more or less. lol. If thats the case you need to get down off that cloud you're on because for me atleast it won't effect me either way. You make it sound like we'll be disappointed if we don't mess you up in some way. I'm not trying to make it sound like that, I'm just saying that there's no point in anyone trying to stop me because it'll never effect what I do, so trying to barrage me with anything you wish, if that is your desire, but it won't change the path that I take in what I'm doing. I'm not saying that whether or not the map is released will effect anyone, I'm just saying that whether or not someone tries to stop me, it won't effect me. Just trying to say that it is pointless. |
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 18, 2004 22:21:06 GMT -5
ok, i think i understand, it pointless to stop your map, though i dont want to stop your map, i kinda lookin forward to it, it looks interesting, i just would like to see credits for the models you are using, its only fair to the modellers who took there time to make them. Edit: Found me a couple of more forums debating this: boards.polycount.net/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=12154&an=0&page=0#12154 www.wc3campaigns.com/showthread.php?t=58601&page=87&pp=25 if anything they are interesting reads Funny, that I showed the models to the ESF staff earlier, we even compared wireframes.. etc. Funny thing is, they didn't match. Zarmat, you're a fudgehead. Ban me if you want, it'll only show that you can't deal with me any other way. oh ok, is this one of the wireframe u used to compare, cause your right it doesnt match your gohan one  here also a pic of the esf one we said you were using ![]() members.westnet.com.au/mbairstow/gohanwire3.jpg[/img] and as we can see these two pics dont match up |
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Post by azndragster on Dec 19, 2004 16:23:50 GMT -5
i'm not sure if its gotten through to you guys, that with the exception of 4 or 5 guys, no one really cares if he copied or didn't copy. all we care about really is the quality of the map and gameplay.
it doesn't matter to me what map i play as long as i have fun playing it. And if 9.1 comes out first i'll have a great time playing it. and if supreme comes out first i'm gonna have a great time playing that.
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Dec 19, 2004 21:16:55 GMT -5
WHO CARES THEY ARE JUST MODELS IN A GAME THAT WILL B FORGOT ABOUT IN 6 MONTHS! IF I MADE A MAP I WOULDNT GIVE CREDIT TO NE1 BUT ME AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... srry got a bit carried away.
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Post by Shinkoru on Dec 20, 2004 15:00:19 GMT -5
The Goku and Gohan models were made by lacrossetitans of supreme and placed in a dbz map we all know as DBZ Skins then Hexen Found them on b-net
and had lacrossetitans reanimate them.Merely a coincedence but i think i got it right Hexen?
p.s. its me Death Tundra
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Damn you Paramount!!!! Make a damn RPG 
