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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:07:25 GMT -5
But making an extremely controversial thread such as this one isn't going to be one exempt from arguments.
I talked with the ESF staff for probably about an hour or more today, exchanging wireframes and discussing similarities.
Another thing is, I wasn't the sole creator of all of these models, but I will take all of the blame if it comes down to it.
And whether or not they were stolen, models cannot be directly converted without several hours of work, at the least, therefore you cannot say they were directly ripped.
Either way, its not going to change the fact that my map will be released.
I do agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if I created a thread saying that my opinion was that Zarmat is a complete asshole, don't you think that would spark just as much of an argument? Maybe now you understand my point.
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Post by SubZer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:08:06 GMT -5
u lost zarmat the models have CLEARLY BEEN PROVEN NOT COPIED. if u morons cant understand it well let me dumb it down ok . U FUCKING GUYS ARE STUPID FOR NOT LISTING TO ME WHEN TOLD U Y IT WASNT COPIED DUH BUT NO. NOW APOLIGISE FOR ACUSSING HEXXEN FOR COPING ESF OR U CANT DO THAT UR SELF.
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 17, 2004 23:10:28 GMT -5
hexan, did i create a thread titles hexan a asshole, no I think its called "Supreme DBZ... Legit Models or Ripped" it goes in both direction, and I also claim that I didnt want the map not too be released, I just feel if those are indeed models created by modellers of the esf community they should be credited for their work.
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:10:30 GMT -5
You'd have to provide some kind of proof or examples which he did by postings pictures. And what puzzles me is why you decided to come here and start an argument instead of commenting on a similar thread on your forums which poped up before this one on here....
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:10:36 GMT -5
u lost zarmat the models have CLEARLY BEEN PROVEN NOT COPIED. if u morons cant understand it well let me dumb it down ok . U FUCKING GUYS ARE STUPID FOR NOT LISTING TO ME WHEN TOLD U Y IT WASNT COPIED DUH BUT NO. NOW APOLIGISE FOR ACUSSING HEXXEN FOR COPING ESF OR U CANT DO THAT UR SELF. See why I disagree with this thread so much? Even though they are just opinions, they won't be very nice. Back to the point of making a thread on "Why Zarmat is an asshole!", would you not delete that right away because it somehow offended you? Just like this topic offends me?
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:12:51 GMT -5
You'd have to provide some kind of proof or examples which he did by postings pictures. And what puzzles me is why you decided to come here and start an argument instead of commenting on a similar thread on your forums which poped up before this one on here.... I came here when I was interrupted by a forum member IMing me several times because he was in complete disgust by what was going on here. We also settled that I will put the names of the ESF modellers in the credits section of my map, if they wish me to do so, just to finish all of this, yet I have a feeling it won't stop there, at least not on these forums.
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 17, 2004 23:13:44 GMT -5
look, there are opinions agreeing wit me true, but there are also other opinions agreeing wit u, this poll can go in your favour as well, I kept that in mind when I was making it, I was curious as well to see what people think about the topic, stop taking it so personally, if I wanted to piss you off I could have easily done so by now.
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:16:26 GMT -5
look, there are opinions agreeing wit me true, but there are also other opinions agreeing wit u, this poll can go in your favour as well, I kept that in mind when I was making it, I was curious as well to see what people think about the topic, stop taking it so personally, if I wanted to piss you off I could have easily done so by now. You already have done so. I wouldn't be so pissed if I didn't find this topic offending to me and my work.
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 17, 2004 23:18:09 GMT -5
the only way this can be offending to you if people dont agree with you in there post, this is purely going to be to see what people opinions will be, there wont be no1 acting like that dude who made that thread on your forums, the topics staying, but if you would like I can change to topic name to something more suitable to suit you.
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:19:20 GMT -5
We'll see where this topic goes, in which point I will eventually get flamed and cussed at, and you will still say that people are entitled to an opinion.
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Post by Zarmat on Dec 17, 2004 23:20:59 GMT -5
I do not tolerate flaming on this forum Hexan, if you havnt reliezed by now, if there are any flaming the post will be deleted, I intend to keep my word that this will be just to see what people think, not a open flaming contest
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Post by SubZer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:29:55 GMT -5
"a war, lol, this has been a issue for ages, I just been stating my opinions and been using information i've gathered to support these opinions, Im sorry that I dont agree with you, but surely you would know when you set out to make a map, there going to be fans who love you, people who dont agree with you, people who dont care about you or people who hate you, you cant please everyone." ok UR A FUCKING MORON ULTMATRX U JUST CANT DROP IT AND FOR U ZARMAT WAS THERE A FUCKING THING ABOUT PLSING EVERY ONE NOOOOOOOOOOOO IF U COULD READ U WOLDNT HAVE POST A FUCKING DUMBASS POST LIKE THAT WOULD U.
I THINK THIS WAS ABOUT PROVING THAT THERE WAS NO COPYING MODELS BUT THEN U GO ON ABOUT PLSING EVERY ONE W/E FUCKER JUST DROP IT MAN U LOST AND U CANT STOP
AND THIS WASNT ABOUT MAKING EVERYOE HAPPY IT WAS ABOUT SHOWING THAT HEXXENS HARD WORK CAME OUT TO BE OUSTANDING MODELS
I DONT SEE A FUCKING WORD AOUT MAKING PPL HAPPY DO IOR PLEASING THEM
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:30:54 GMT -5
You already have done so. I wouldn't be so pissed if I didn't find this topic offending to me and my work. s8.invisionfree.com/DBZ_Supreme_RPG/index.php?showtopic=34That is offensive to us yet you've opted to leave it as is even though you've acknowledged that you know about that post, and then you have the audacity to come here and complain about Zarmats thread being offensive to you??
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Dec 17, 2004 23:35:23 GMT -5
"a war, lol, this has been a issue for ages, I just been stating my opinions and been using information i've gathered to support these opinions, Im sorry that I dont agree with you, but surely you would know when you set out to make a map, there going to be fans who love you, people who dont agree with you, people who dont care about you or people who hate you, you cant please everyone." ok UR A FUCKING MORON ULTMATRX U JUST CANT DROP IT AND FOR U ZARMAT WAS THERE A FUCKING THING ABOUT PLSING EVERY ONE NOOOOOOOOOOOO IF U COULD READ U WOLDNT HAVE POST A FUCKING DUMBASS POST LIKE THAT WOULD U. I THINK THIS WAS ABOUT PROVING THAT THERE WAS NO COPYING MODELS BUT THEN U GO ON ABOUT PLSING EVERY ONE W/E FUCKER JUST DROP IT MAN U LOST AND U CANT STOP AND THIS WASNT ABOUT MAKING EVERYOE HAPPY IT WAS ABOUT SHOWING THAT HEXXENS HARD WORK CAME OUT TO BE OUSTANDING MODELS I DONT SEE A FUCKING WORD AOUT MAKING PPL HAPPY DO IOR PLEASING THEM Well,... all I can say to that is atleast the supreme stafff were right about one thing... The maturity and age group of their forum members. Is it really that hard to write a post without swearing or umm,... without caps? And I can't drop what?? How about making some sense.
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Post by HexenLordX on Dec 17, 2004 23:40:08 GMT -5
This was discussed before, and its not what it looks like. It was stated wrong and I apologize. It's sort of a double meaning.
Should be something like this: 1. Dragonball Z Supreme RPG was created to supply gamers with a quality DBZ map 2. Dragonball Z Supreme RPG was created to supply gamers with a DBZ map, unlike Rampage and Tribute.
It wasn't supposed to say that they were of bad quality, but that it is a quality dbz map, that is unlike rampage or tribute.
I know I talked with someone about this before, and I apologize, I will change that. Edit: I fixed it.. maybe it's a bit more clearly stated.
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