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Post by DaRkY on Nov 9, 2004 17:49:17 GMT -5
i mean this may be stupid but pikkon is so strong, when he and goku go and confront the people causing chaos (frieza cell etc) goku warns pikkon about cell being very very powerfull and hes at his 120% but pikkon slaps him away like hes nothing when the z warriors struggled.
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Post by DaRkY on Nov 9, 2004 17:49:35 GMT -5
just wanted to see peoples views on pikkon
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Post by You on Nov 9, 2004 17:50:52 GMT -5
hes about the same as ss2 goku(when goku fought him in other world tourny they were basically even. although i belive goku could have gone ss3 but im not sure)
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Post by DaRkY on Nov 9, 2004 17:56:12 GMT -5
mayb but the only way goku beats pikkon is through tricking him rather than brute strength, pikkon would have owned him if he didnt transmission then hit him i think
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Post by Kid_Buu on Nov 9, 2004 19:03:44 GMT -5
hes about the same as ss2 goku(when goku fought him in other world tourny they were basically even. although i belive goku could have gone ss3 but im not sure) i dont think that goku was able to transform into ss3. but sothing that i dont understand is that if pikkon beated cell thats mean that he is strong like a ss2 but goku and him were equal but goku was anot able to transform into a ss2 (atleast he didnt)
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Post by Frenchy on Nov 9, 2004 19:06:54 GMT -5
Well i beleave there is a jenimba movie where picon and goku go and try and fight jen, and goku does turn ss3 in the movie so he was able to, the movie starts when they are in the middle of the turnement and they go and fight jen, so to that question goku was able to go ss3 at that time. As for picon he is a bit stronger then goku ss2 but then again, uss is a stronger lvl then cell 100% and they couldn't beat cell that was so pure power doesent always count
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Post by Truhan on Nov 9, 2004 19:19:58 GMT -5
Well, Mystic is stronger than SS3, so Goku's SS2 could have been MUCH stronger than Gohan's...
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Post by You on Nov 9, 2004 19:34:45 GMT -5
because goku was training in the after life it WAS far stronger then gohans ss2(so is vegetas) gohan had the first ss2 but he really wasnt the strongest(in buu saga goku and vegeta were far more powerful then gohan, until mystic)
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Post by Millions on Nov 9, 2004 20:24:38 GMT -5
goku was getting his ass kick by whats it called..... lighting flash something gay i dont know anyways he pulls the same trick he did on cell and had to wait till 2 episodes to think about it...... what a time waster
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Post by Chungster on Nov 9, 2004 20:55:15 GMT -5
i doubt goku was ss2 when he fought pikon but just got stronger than pikon after dyeing and going through the tournament becuz hes a sayain
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Post by lol on Nov 9, 2004 21:16:28 GMT -5
the janemba movie (this is weird as it couldnt have happened) happened during buu saga. The reason is that vegeta is dead (thats how he's in the afterworld). The only time he died was during freeza saga and when buu killed him. So it had to happen when Goku went back to the after world when his 24 hrs were up. But buu is no where to be found.
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Post by unimatrixzer0 on Nov 9, 2004 22:28:36 GMT -5
I think theres a bit of confusion. The tourny in the janemba movie was the second time Goku faced Pikkon and takes place after the whole Buu thing. Since when Goku is forced to go SS3, he mentions that the only other person he was forced to use SS3 on was Majin Buu. Pikkon got the best of Cell and the others only because he took them of gaurd since they were all focused on Goku. The reason he took out Cell so easy could be because he wasn't powered up. So I don't think he is as strong as SS2 since Goku fairs well against him in the tourny which takes place before buu. And Pikkon takes off some weighted clothes I think during the fight?
Hmm, and if I remember correctly King Kai and Goku fly off in the plane to the supreme kai's planet almost right away after Gohan beats Cell so he didn't have SS2/SS3 yet.
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Post by nickel501 on Nov 9, 2004 23:26:33 GMT -5
Just a question what was pikkon? A namek? Cause thats what he looked like But wait whats pikkon got to do with dbz-tu again?
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Post by heavenblast on Nov 10, 2004 3:11:15 GMT -5
the movies dont fit into the timeline guys
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Post by Zarmat on Nov 10, 2004 3:34:28 GMT -5
on the series, the otherworld tounry was abasically after the defeat of cell, so goku had not as yet reach ss2, i believe at that time pikkon was stronger in power and stuff, but because of the rules of the tournament, it allowed goku to win against goku by outsmartin him and usin his kamehameha to blast him out of the ring (He was declared winner till both of em got disqualified for touchin the ceiling ) The tournament in Rebirth of Fusion i believe was a different 1 years later, for he was ss3, and vegeta was dead, so yea the movies dont fit into the time line, but if it was tweak so it did, it b after vegeta die win he blew himself up to try and kill buu, so the tournament wud hav to take place between goku returnin to otherworld and goin to the supreme kai planet (though gohan was on earth wit videl and buu no where in sight, but yea the movies arnt the best source of info when goin by series logic )
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