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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 16, 2004 12:34:01 GMT -5
uss2 does exist...vegeta goes uss when he fights cell seond form and gets all those muscles. Trunks also goes uss but then goes even further and his muscels get so big that they slow him down and hes useless.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 16, 2004 13:05:02 GMT -5
uss2, not be to confused with Ultra ss2, this is USS2 (ultra super saiyan, phase 2.. more muscles... whoop dee doo)
ss4 can be considered a saiyan trans, but it doersnt follow the general rules.... its not a goozaru form exactly.. its kinda a were-saiyan....
saiyan-jin... is ?japanese? jin meaning people... saiyan people... it depends on where you see dbz, and which name u like better
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 16, 2004 13:11:00 GMT -5
sayain means vegetable so its vegatable people lol
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Post by Kid_Buu on Oct 16, 2004 13:35:35 GMT -5
Heh, and I still say Mystic is stronger than SS3. Super Buu is stronger than Fat Buu. SS3 Goku told Piccolo he might not of been able to beat Fat Buu even if he had gone all out. Fat Buu actually hurt SS3 Goku some. Whne Mystic Gohan faught Super Buu, Buu didn't get a single shot againt Gohan. Gohan was wiping the floor with Super Buu up until he obsorbs Gotenks. Thats my reasoning. mystic isnt stronger. when gohan aked old kai if it was finished yet he told him that he was done a long time ago and kid buu is stronger than super buu eveen whe he absorbed gotenks and piccolo and ss3 goku was able to keep up with him (at the begining)
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Post by Kid_Buu on Oct 16, 2004 13:53:33 GMT -5
And i think ss4 is a ss transformation and i think that ss4 is the legendary super saiyan because:
1: you need to have a pure heart and goku is able to ride the nimbus cloud soo its mean he have a pure heart.
2: the legend says that a new legendary super saiyan will born each 1000 year and in only ten year gohan,goku,vegeta,goten and trunks was able to transform into a ss. But only goku was able to transform into a ss4 (vegeta dosent count because he cheated by using a machine)
3: i think broly wasent the legendary super saiyan because he was beated to easely by gohan, i think he is just a strong saiyan.
4: we need a tail to transform into a ss4 and everyone know that the tail is the principale attribute of saiyans.
5: when goku is a ss4 he have a tail and a fur just like a monkey and everyone know that saiyan are monkeys but in a human form.
6: goku keept his black hair when he is ss4 and everyone know that pure blood saiyan have black hair.
7: in the legend when vegeta told the storie to goku (im not sure if it was vegeta who told the storie but wtv) the legendary super saiyan was in a oozaru form so i think it was a golden Oozaru and then he had so much power that he destroyed himself and the planet. so i think he was golden Oozaru and then he was transformed into a ss4 and then he was selfdestroyed by his own power.
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 16, 2004 15:42:05 GMT -5
ur talking about who achieved the TRUE super sayain form. legendary super sayain is just a different ss transformation.
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Post by Chungster on Oct 16, 2004 15:45:48 GMT -5
are you sure lengendary super sayain is a transformation since i dont see a difference in brolys look so maybe he was just ultra super sayain but he powered up a lot
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 16, 2004 16:25:10 GMT -5
from what i'v gathered from ppl movie and other sources. broly had a transformation when he went lss. after uss he got filled with rage and he became strong VERY strong which made him lss. the reason lss is set from the others is cause broly was no ordinary saiyan he was a saiyan filled with unlocked powers and filled with rage (necklace was made 2 surpress the rage). like gohan (don't think of them like equals from wat i say) he had locked in him powers. he unlocked some and got ss and uss. he would have gotten ss2 but he was blindedd with rage and fury. he unlocked all his rage, power, and emotion all at once. and become LSS. how this form happened was not called LSS it had no name it was between ss3 and ss2. ppl called it lss cause broly was the legendary super saiyan and this was all his power mashed into a transformation. if broly had more self control he probly woulda got ss2. but because he had no self control he burst into the form known as LSS. at least gohan with ss2 had self control he had the ability 2 surpress his rage and make it power. broly could not do this he could'nt surpress rage. about LUSS i know broly never went LUSS in show but logicaly it's just broly becoming LSS and gets buffer wich adds the uss.
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Post by Bleen on Oct 16, 2004 16:33:55 GMT -5
LSS is buffed as USS2+, but instead of a speed loss, there is a SS2+ speed gain and SS2+ power gain. There is no such thing as LUSS.
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Post by Goten on Oct 16, 2004 17:09:34 GMT -5
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Post by InsanityX on Oct 16, 2004 18:46:10 GMT -5
thats not SS2, thats him powering up to SS3, fool -.-; and yes there is a j is SS, its Super Saiya-jin, as the japanes episodes say, its Saiyan in america, and no saiyan dont mean vegetable, it mean warrior, and SS4, isnt a SSJ transformation, a SS4, transformation MUST follows the rules of a pure heart ( good or bad) that siffer extream loss to trigger an emotion thaty exceeds rage, the transformation is a product of a need, as goku CLEARLY states, and the only way to acheive SSJ is to CREAT that rage, now SS4, happenes when a saiya-jin is exposed to an extream amount of moonlight, wich triggers golden monkey, then learning to CONTROL the form creats the so-called SSJ4 transformation, but its truly an effect of the tail on every saiyan wich makes it an monkey form, not a super saiya-jin form, now befor you start with these BS posts again, learn japanes and watch the damn series, it states what i just said in the whole damn jap series of GT -.-;
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 16, 2004 19:04:47 GMT -5
sayain means vegetable and all full sayains named after vegetables: Kakarot: carrot Brolly: Brocoli Raditz: Radish Nappa: Nappa (a vegetable) Vegeta: Vegetable
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 16, 2004 19:05:31 GMT -5
are you sure lengendary super sayain is a transformation since i dont see a difference in brolys look so maybe he was just ultra super sayain but he powered up a lot according to funimation yes
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 16, 2004 21:05:42 GMT -5
ss4 could be considered a saiyan trans.. although he does it from the goozaru form, he does go through some strong emotions, though in his case it was saddness/loss...
but it is irregular..
but of course we have seen the rules arent quite iron clad.. (goten and trunks ss) (and gotenks ss3) (goku ss3? i dont recall when he got that..)
mystic is a GIANT unlock potential.. in the case of gohan, even being the unfinished version, his strength was on par with goku ss3.. a little less or a little more... but approx ss3 power
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Post by Goten on Oct 16, 2004 21:34:17 GMT -5
thats not SS2, thats him powering up to SS3, fool -.-; Yes it is him powering up to Ssj3 BUT his hair isnt Long he has Eye Brows and Lighting around his body all the requirements of telling he is a Ssj2 besides hes not gonna just SKIP Ssj2 Goku didnt skip Ssj2 It makes perfect sense to have Ssj2 in there for Gotenks AND when Goten and trunks fused They were not Super Saiyan and they still went Ssj3
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