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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 19, 2004 18:18:37 GMT -5
yeah that sounds good but i think if they have the egg in them bebi should also have the option to pop out of them like he does with dr.myuu killing them but freeing them of his controll.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 19, 2004 20:20:10 GMT -5
with what you said, hostile is essentially "implant egg"...
we can have that be a passive skill of bebi (once he earnes it, he gets it like aura [no click]) and instead when he leaves a body it triggers [leaving an egg] which will hatch in x minutes [causes prestated alliances changes UNLESS (there should be a counter)... (mb unless his life or ki gets to a certain number/percent?)
personally I think buu should auto absorb anyone he kills (ONLY IF WE GET UNLIMITED ABSORBS MIND YOU!) bebi could work similarly..
or give them a skill "auto body/absorb" that if they attk/do dmg to a unit (and it is enterable [trigger for it] and hp at the right number) they will enter/absorb it...
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 20, 2004 15:23:38 GMT -5
i think bebi should b able to get any body (exept buu and has 2 b a hero) like if he gets janemba's health low enuff he could take janemba. or he could take dr.wheelo. that might solve ppl getting pissed about there body being taken. also would b cool 2 take omega shenron lol.
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Post by Bleen on Oct 21, 2004 18:28:44 GMT -5
Being in Omega Shenron is seriously cheap!!
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Post by gohanx5 on Oct 21, 2004 20:02:05 GMT -5
ya that way to cheap but otherwise great ideas i like hope gotenks sees this
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Post by dbztributebobgt on Oct 21, 2004 23:11:55 GMT -5
no taking over saga characters...this sounds good how bout adding it in v9
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 22, 2004 8:00:11 GMT -5
saga characters wouldnt happen for A WHILE if at all..
considering balance and skills and (tranforms?) would have too be added to each one..
essentially MAKING them playable characters... which would be neat.. but just for bebi seems a bit much..
he SHOULD be able to take over anyone (creeps as well, but only for power [as civilians are now]) except maybe buu
(their substances might have odd interactions and until we debate what type of outcome would occur from buu eating bebi or bebi bodying buu....)
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Post by Zarmat on Oct 22, 2004 13:33:50 GMT -5
well i reckon if buu covered bebi wit the goo he uses to absorb, bebi wud b absorb like anyone else, but in gt bebi cudnt take ova buu, well eggs didnt work at least, but buu one whack out magic creature dude, bebi control ppl by takin over there body/brain, buu body is not natural like a normal body and bebi i reckon wudnt b able to control it, heck buu cud make 20 mini buu and shit of himself (like after vegeta blew himself up) it wud b 2 hard or impossible for bebi to control
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Post by bladedragon on Oct 22, 2004 14:11:28 GMT -5
if bebi took saga chars they wouldn't get special skills. that would b only problem. they would'nt get any skills (exept janemba with is blink and hilde). what if bebi ca'nt get a z body can train in saga body. and omega shenron would b hard 2 get. and if he gets saga heros then his health hits 1500 he's out and the saga guy's health needs 2 b like 300.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 22, 2004 16:10:12 GMT -5
ok first off...as to buu, since you wanted to post your thought...
bebi's egg didnt work on fat buu.. good point But that doesn't conclusively state bebi cant body him..
more on the point, buu could cover bebi with goo, and try to absorb him... buuuut, remember how bebi turns to semi-energy immune goo and travels up kamehame (and other similar attack) waves to body people? one assumes he could maybe use that form to escape and/or attempt to body buu...
it could get messy oily/pink goo everywhere... (bebuu? almost makes sense.. GAAAAAAA)
i think if we are going to give bebi the power to take saga fighters, they SHOULD have skills
minimully, the saiyans should be able to (over time and MANY lvls) gain transformations...
saibamen would have kamikaze.. (weak though 250-750 dmg max)
slug would be counterpoint to picc... (giant/super namek form, regen, some attack.. [help me out gurus], strectchy arms of DOOOOM.. so forth
turles saiyan.. etc
bio broly.. etc
bojack... um skills/spells but no forms (well he did have 2 in movie.. soo mb that)
hild/nemba should have some skills, and depending on how the sagas are.. we could revamp it.. soooo the 2 havles dont just charge each other (he could take one and fuse... given nemba progression) likewise fat nemba could be scripted to try to lvl (to gain next form) rather then just die... [boring]..
dragons though I think are beyond him..
no clue about the worlds stronges saga..
and all the etc players bojack crew, bio fighters.. etc... some random skills but nothing great
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Post by Bleen on Oct 22, 2004 17:05:24 GMT -5
Ugh. I added in some more pictures to first page and also added in Golden Oozaru but i did not change it from V8.1. If you have any ideas for an improved Bebi Goozaru that will not wreck this game, please post it.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 22, 2004 19:04:21 GMT -5
you have to remember SUPER BEBI (that you get at lvl 45) is completely different then the picture you are showing (fully mature bebi? in vegeta)
that is super bebi vegeta or sumsuch...(how many stages of bebi in vegeta? 3? thin lines, thick lines then super?)
likewise goozaru is based off a BODY, which is a BAD idea (jus like having a cell and 17 player..)
sooo although we could make a ficticious MegaTuffle, if anyone has a better idea.. speak up
eav gave me an idea (with his post) that... each form of bebi has a max lvl he can absorb.. (ie baby form cant body anyone with trans above ss, second cant body anything above ss2, third cant body above ss3.. so forth)
not sure if this idea is needed, but think on it.. one could assume if bebi has the power to reduce them to % hps needed, then he has the power to control them... (which SHOULD stand for ss4 as well...)
though WE could add something... (way to BREAK control) in that, although bebi could control trans, for BRIEF (1 second and/or no mana drain) the character could try to force his highest transform. and use it to foroce bebi out.. (not sure how this would work yet.. ill think on it.. )
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Post by Bleen on Oct 22, 2004 20:09:59 GMT -5
Who is Super Bebi than? It is either Mature Bebi (1) or Maxed Out Bebi Vegeta. And also, limiting Bebi's ability to use SS forms or to enter bodies like that is not that good for Bebi.
Maybe instead of the forcing Bebi out thing we can have "Enter Body" have a chance of sucess and it increases as Bebi puts more levels into that skill. So it is basically a head or tails system like you start off with a 50/50 chance to be able to enter but you still got to lower them to health lower than 950.
ie.
Level 05 - "Enter Body" 50% Sucess. Level 08 - "Enter Body" 60% Sucess. Level 11 - "Enter Body" 70% Sucess. Level 14 - "Enter Body" 80% Sucess. Level 17 - "Enter Body" 90% Sucess. Level 20 - "Enter Body" 100% Sucess.
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Post by CNukemR on Oct 22, 2004 20:55:52 GMT -5
Super bebi as show in the game... is the fully mature form as we know it (via first page of this thread) since the bebi we start with is the SECOND form of bebi...
Super bebi as shown on the FRONT page is probaly fully mature bebi IN vegeta's body AFTER calling power from the inhabitants of the EARTH (all 8 some billion) and the mighty saiyans..
yeah i dont like that limitation idea, but I would like to add some method for the bodies to resist/regain control (aka trunks..)
Although we could make it random, i prefer methods to the madness.. ill think on it tonight/tomorrow, too much thinking in too little time..
in the show the body ability was dependant mainly on power of bebi, and power of body..
by requiring bebi to lower their HP to a VERY low number: this is essentially our test for power.. but bebi can come along and jsut find weak bodies.. which doesnt allow for question of power, AND he can have allies weaken them.. which also doesnt allow for the power struggle...
SOOO, what we COULD do, is allow bebi to attempt to body any injured person (<80 or90%) hp, and to resolve it, we create a mini tourney, if bebi wins, he gets the body, if he loses.. he dies/is injured... thoughts?
should the body be restored to 100% for the fight? (bebi?) should tranformations be allowed? or is it strictly based on what form they are in at encounter? monkey allowed?
one assumes the body has a chance to resist (initially at first) but we dont see any of that later? (which sucks)
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Post by pxc on Oct 22, 2004 22:23:23 GMT -5
sounds funky... the real bebi would dissapear or have to be invuln tho. sounds really fun. but I think bebi should still have an advantage there. like an invuln spectator with good aura for him. i dunno.
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